In October 2009 I was interviewed by Bill Salus, author of the popular Psalm 83-themed book Isralestine, host of the radio program “Prophecy Update,” and evangelist on the end times website Prophecy Depot. Bill and I spent much of the interview discussing my recent article The Wars of the End Times.
Bill has been kind enough to allow The Christ in Prophecy Journal to reproduce the “The Nine End Time Wars of the Bible” interview in transcript form, edited into an article series. To listen to the original radio program in mp3 format, I invite you to visit Prophecy Depot or KWBB.
In the last segment, Bill and I discussed the second end time wars — The First War of Gog-Magog. In this segment, we look at the third and fourth end time wars in the series.
Tell us about the end time wars 3 and 4 — The Conventional War of the Tribulation (Revelation 6) and the Nuclear War of the Tribulation (Revelation 8 & 9).
Bill Salus: Let’s move onto war number three — Revelation 6. What do we have going there, David?
Dr. Reagan: A lot of people believe that when the Tribulation begins that the whole world will be so taken by the Antichrist because he will be such a dynamic, charismatic personality that the whole world will just bow down and start worshipping him. I don’t believe that at all. I think that will be true in Europe. I think he will be seen as a great Savior. I think the Israeli’s will look upon him as a political Savior, though not a spiritual one, just a political one. I think he will rise to power in Europe peacefully through his cunning and through his charismatic and dynamic leadership. But, I don’t think the rest of the world is going to bow down immediately and accept him as a world leader. Africa and Asia and Latin America have spent 200 years getting out from underneath European dominance and they are not going to suddenly turn around and bow down to some European leader and say, “Come rule us.” I think that he is going to have to conquer them.
In Revelation 6 we see the beginnings of a great conventional war in the Tribulation period when the Antichrist is setting out to conquer the entire world. I believe the ones who will oppose him the most will be the remaining Muslims. I believe God will work through these wars to finish off Islam, and this will be the pouring out of God’s wrath upon Islam. I think that the war will result in the destruction of many of these Islamic nations, but it is going to start out I believe as a conventional war. I think that is what we read about in Revelation 6.
What happens in Revelation 8 and 9, is the war morphing into a nuclear war. When I read Revelation 8 and 9 it reads more like a nuclear confrontation where 2/3 of the Earth is burned up. At the end of the book of Revelation we see people covered with loathsome and malignant sores that will not heal, which could be a result of nuclear radiation from this war.
So, I basically think that the Tribulation will begin with a conventional war that will morph into a nuclear war, and through those two wars the Antichrist will be able to take over the entire Earth. It says in Revelation 13 that He will end up ruling every tribe, every tongue and every nation on planet Earth. He is going to do this through military conquest.
Bill Salus: Okay, you actually covered a bit of the fourth war when you skipped on over to Revelation 8 and 9, and they do segway well into one another — a 1-2-3 punch.
In Zephaniah 2:11, it does talk about God destroying all the false gods of the Earth.
Dr. Reagan: That’s right.
Bill Salus: And so, what you might be suggesting here is a partial fulfillment of at least the God of Islam — Allah — through Psalm 83 and Ezekiel 38-39?
Dr. Reagan: I think by the middle of the Tribulation Islam is going to be a past memory.
Do you believe the Rapture will occur prior to this Tribulational war?
Dr. Reagan: Yes, I do. I think the Rapture will happen before the Tribulation and that the world will be left in chaos. Of course, it will be more in the United States than in any other nation in the world because we have more Christians in this country than all of Western Europe and England put together right now. So, it will be absolute chaos in some areas of the world, moreso than others. And so, yes, I think we will be taken out before all of this happens.
Bill Salus: What a platform the Antichrist will have to spread his lies about what happened to the Christians, because the world is going to wonder about the disappearances. To emerge on the backdrop of these wars using satanically fueled signs and lying wonders, this guy is indeed going to be recognized as the Antichrist by the Tribulation believers, not to mention the fact that somewhere in the mix we’ve got to have that false covenant signed (Daniel 9:27; Isa. 28).
Dr. Reagan: Right.
In the next segment, Bill and I will be discussing end time wars 5 and 6 — The War in the Heavens (Revelation 12) and the War Against the Jews and the Saints (Revelation 12).