Do you feel as if something really big is ready to go down?
If you’re like me you can feel it. You can sense it. The heavy weight of a coming dramatic change is in the air.
Decay – The signs of entropy are all around us. They’re glimpsed in the despondent eye of the unemployed worker who cannot find a job, the harried broker who sees no end to market volatility, the average Joe who feels the wheels of justice have totally fallen off the wagon of freedom, and the graduate who sees no hope for the future because our leaders have failed us. People are feeling our best days now lie behind us.
Something’s got to change.
Economy – The signs of financial ruin are growing. The Western world so steeped in debt vainly pushes back the inevitable knock of the repo man. The nations fall one by one into insolvency, dragging down the economies of what remaining nations are still productive. The East rises ready to claim its investments only to discover the money is artificial, and so tethered stares down bankruptcy as well.
Total and worldwide financial disaster is inevitable.
Nature – The signs of natural destruction are evident. The earth trembles under the fatigue of one natural disaster after another. Record tornadoes rip the countryside apart. Tsunamis and hurricanes devastate coastal regions, reaching ever inland. Daily earthquakes level whole cities. Droughts burn and fires scar the land. Everyday there’s a report of another, and then another, and then another.
The world can’t take much more of this punishment.
War – The signs of another global war are exponentially mounting. The entire world is focused on the fate of the little nation of Israel. The sum of the United Nations wants her destroyed. The arms race of the Middle East fueled by a supernatural hatred of the Jewish people is just one trigger pull away from engulfing the Middle East in a bloodbath. The world’s resources have grown scarce and so the nations eye hungrily the outcome of such a war, ready to turn a regional conflict into a global one.
The hate cannot be held back any longer.
Immorality – And, the signs of immorality accost our most basic decencies. The love for our fellow man has grown cold. Life means nothing to anyone and so we murder even our children at will. People rail against God and His moral law demanding lawlessness. Christians lose more and more ground in the court systems. Around the world those who stand for righteousness are tortured and killed in record numbers. The restraining force on immorality has all but fled, mostly leaving us to our own self-destructive tendencies.
We are watching the world scream on in its dizzying path towards mutual destruction and know that it cannot go on like this. It just can’t. Something’s got to give. The world cannot continue to get this evil, this volatile, and this hopeless without finally exploding into chaos.
That’s what I see, and if you’ve got your fingers on the pulse of the world as well then that’s most likely what you see as well.
The Final Result
If history repeats itself, and it usually does, then we are all at the brink of something cataclysmic. I’m firmly convinced like no other time during my life that this is the case. Unless the restraining hand of God delays the inevitable, the final days of routine life as we know it are quickly running out.
Inevitable – that’s the key word, for God has told us that this shattering, world altering change will eventually happen. It must, for God’s prophecies always come true.
- The nations surrounding Israel will finally attack with all their anti-Semitic fury (Ps. 83; Ezek. 38-39).
- The economies of the world will collapse under their own massive debt load, resulting in famine and the emergency solution of a punishing global financial system (Rev. 6:5-6 & 13:16-17).
- Natural disasters will increase in frequency and intensity until the mountains are leveled, the oceans are destroyed, and the environment is left in ruins (Lk. 21:11; Rev. 6:12 & 16:3-4,18).
- Immorality will sink into such darkness that murder and debauchery will be the way of life (Rev. 9:21).
- And, out of this global chaos, where hope seems to have totally fled, the world will trade all their freedom over to a global dictator who will control everyone with an iron fist, annihilating all who stand in his way in wave after wave of wars and persecution (Rev. 6:2 & 13:17).
This is the world of the near future, and it’s an awful nightmare to contemplate.
The Hopeful Escape
Despite the soon break of the gathering storm, and despite the hopelessness about the future that it brings, believers in Christ can know that it is not our future. Our future plays out in the polar opposite. Instead of living in a world gone mad, we foresee a new home in Heaven. Instead of persecution by a crushing tyrant, we face a loving and benevolent King. Instead of living under wrath, we see living under love. And, where there is only hopelessness left on earth, there is hope, peace and joy awaiting us (Rev. 21-22).
The change on our horizon is bright, for the King of Kings is coming to take those who are saved up to live in Heaven with Him for ever and ever (Jn. 14:1-14; 1 Cor. 15:51-58; 1 Thes. 4:13-18). It will be an event called the Rapture, and it is coming sooner than we think. In fact, it could be argued that it has the potential to happen this very week due to the prophetic significance of the Feasts of Israel.
The Feast of Trumpets occurs on September 29-30, 2011. Will it herald the “last trumpet?” Only God knows for sure. The Rapture is an imminent event, and so we don’t know the exact day or hour it will finally occur. I can only speculate that with the rise of major world events tied to the prophetic significance of the Feast of Trumpets, that this week is one I’m keeping a very close eye on.
Because the Rapture may be more imminent than ever, and since so many of our loved ones will be left behind to wonder what has happened to us pondering what dark future awaits them in the aftermath, I will be running all this Feast of Trumpets week a message of hope. This message explains why millions suddenly and mysteriously disappeared and will give them answers to what has happened. It is our “left behind” message, and my prayer should we be departing really soon, is that it brings people to Jesus Christ.
The series begins answering the questions of what happened, why it happened, and what all the disappearances are about.
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This weekend I was taking a hard look at my life because I have not been living as I know I should. I was very upset over the personal examination of my ways and wanted guidance from the Lord to help me. I opened the Bible and the following is what I read (from Acts 3 below).
My anguish turned to hope because of what I read. I was told to repent, turn to God and my sins will be wiped out and my soul refreshed. I needed to hear that more than anything at that time! Not only that, it was followed by the words that Jesus is coming back soon.
And then I read your article and it just send another signal loud and clear. Time is short. Our lives need to be focused on the Lord now more than ever. We have to be ready at all times. We need to be living for Jesus at all times. The trappings of our earthly desires have to be overcome for time is short.
Thank you for this article. The timing couldn't have been more profound for me!
19 Repent, then, and turn to God, so that your sins may be wiped out, that times of refreshing may come from the Lord, 20 and that he may send the Christ, who has been appointed for you–even Jesus. 21 He must remain in heaven until the time comes for God to restore everything, as he promised long ago through his holy prophets. 22 For Moses said, 'The Lord your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among your own people; you must listen to everything he tells you. 23 Anyone who does not listen to him will be completely cut off from among his people.' 24 "Indeed, all the prophets from Samuel on, as many as have spoken, have foretold these days. 25 And you are heirs of the prophets and of the covenant God made with your fathers. He said to Abraham, 'Through your offspring all peoples on earth will be blessed.' 26 When God raised up his servant, he sent him first to you to bless you by turning each of you from your wicked ways."
Maybe this week? How long, Lord? How long?
It is true, that the Church Age is soon to expire, yet our race is not finished yet. The Lord God will not leave the earth without ambassadors to carry his message of redemption and restoration, knowing this, we should then see the preparation for the mantle to be passed.
Israel is not yet prepared to assume this duty in the form of the 144,000 nor have the Two Witnesses arrived to declare their testimony of Yeshua to these that will be sealed. The hearts of Israel must be prepared, and so they will be at the time appointed.
The Lord is returning again to his people Israel and will reveal himself to them and all nations during the Gog/Magog battle as recorded by the Prophet Ezekiel. It will also be, that the house of Israel will pass under the rod to be judged concerning their tresspasses, as they cleanse the land in preparation for the construction of the Temple.
The Lord will then send his Witnesses to his people to restore and remove the stoney heart within them, to teach them righteousness and prepare them for their coming King Yeshua. As Elijah was taken up in the clouds of heaven and passed his mantle to Elisha so will it be that the Church being taken up, will also pass the mantle as Israel is prepared.
The aftermath of the Gog/Magog battle (Ezekiel 39:29) is the end of the journey of the Church, which for 2,000 years has carried the message of light in a world of darkness, the Gospel of our Lord and Redeemer Yeshua.
Make no mistake concerning this Temple that will be constructed upon Mount Moriah, both Yeshua our Lord and the Prophet Daniel, identify this as a "Temple of God" not a profane structure. For if it were not so, the actions of the Son of Perdition would not be termed the Abomination that maketh it Desolate.
Eagerly waiting for the days ahead. Planning on witnessing to my family and friends one more time. God willing, someone will repent!
Good post Nathan. All I would add to it is that everyone be prepared for very difficult times ahead, be they economic calamities, natural disasters, or anything else. Depending on where we are, some will experience more difficulties than others. If we find ourselves going through more than we thought we would have to endure, know that God is in full control and that He will be our strength. We must abide in Christ, and He will abide in us. Though a dying world persists in darkness, wherein darkness there is no hope and the enemy aims to steal and to destroy, know that we are not in darkness and our Blessed Hope of eternal life can never be expunged …
For anyone interested, I maintain a blog that I update daily with current events related to Bible prophecy and interesting news items:
But most of here are Pre-Trib and you are not. This highlights a major difference in how we look at the future according to Bible prophecy.
Mitchell said "If we find ourselves going through more than we thought we would have to endure, know that God is in full control and that He will be our strength."
One can take this as true. We Christians may indeed endure some hardships BEFORE the tribulation and can rely on God to get through them.
But I think it is a carefully worded messages warning us that we are not going to be raptured and will have to go through the tribulation.
Nice try, Mitchell. Give us a little more credit. We aren't stupid.
Hi guys, well I didn't want to come here debating pre or post, but rather to offer encouragement.
Believing in a pre-trib rapture is fine. So is changing one's mind after reasonable debate (Isa 1:18). After all, I was a pre-trib believer for over 20 years. Although it is said, however, to hope for the best, it would be unwise to not prepare for the worst. I'm sure you would agree.
If anyone truly believes however they have the knowledge to explain pre-tribism using Scripture and is interested in a friendly discussion on the subject, I encourage you to do so on one of the posts contained in the Theology and Eschatology page of the blog. Read an article first, such as "The Revelation of Jesus Christ and the Rapture of the Church" or anything else you like and then respond with the best possible argument possible. Iron sharpens iron my friends.
(Remember brothers and sisters, it's a secondary doctrine that we can debate, but not divide over. We are one family in Christ.)
“Iron sharpens iron my friends.”
Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha…..that cracks me up. Haven’t we been there before?
Sorry, couldn't help myself.
Mitchell uses 2 sly tactics in his last reply.
One is to come across as so gracious to us. This isn't to be kind, it is to try to make himself look better than us, as in, "Oh you poor misguided ignorant people, I have pity on your ignorance. My superior self is so tolerant of your lack of intelligence."
It is CONDESCENDING and PATRONIZING. (I don't have time to spell check those words if they are misspelled)
The second tactic is to say something like "So is changing one's mind after reasonable debate". Note the "reasonable". That implies we are being UNreasonable. A friend of mine used to use a similar tactic by saying "An intelligent person would think…."
Can't wait for the day we all get to say "Hey, Mitch, I TOLD YOU SO!"
(p.s. The context of this post is meant to be in fun…like a brother poking you in the ribs to annoy you…JUST KIDDING AROUND….brother)
Hi brothers, no need for scoffing and mocking, that sort of apparent derision doesn't look good in the Body of Christ, even if it's suppose to be in jest. This is a public forum. You're welcomed to openly discuss any topics you like over on the blog, however. Your 'replies' here appear to infer that you have something ready for me to consider. 🙂
I'd love to read it!
interesting blog Mitchell I read your article above and what you wrote is very compelling. if I remember right Dr. Reagan also sees the mighty messenger the same way as you do but the extra details you lay out are convincing.
Interesting that you didn't come here to debate pre-Trib, so you say.
Yet why is it that you seem to ONLY post on this blog when the conversation is realted to pre-Trib?
No scoffing intended, Mitchell. Just tired of the same arguments. May I remind you that your “iron” has been on display here several times before. Just do a Google search. You have a standard of hermeneutic that you insist of “pre-tism” and a flexible one for your own theories. You’ve repeatedly stated that there is absolutely no compelling argument for “pre-tism” even though you were one for “over twenty years”. That sorta of reminds me of Marv Rosenthal who was pre-trib for 30 yrs and suddenly jumped ship when Bob Van Kampen knocked on his door.
Anon – "interesting blog Mitchell I read your article above and what you wrote is very compelling. if I remember right Dr. Reagan also sees the mighty messenger the same way as you do but the extra details you lay out are convincing."
Hi, yes Dr. Reagan believes that as well. And I give kudos to him. He is SO close to assembling that one specific picture in Revelation 10, but — surprise surprise — a VERY significant 'presupposition' is keeping him from putting the final pieces of the puzzle together.
Your first post in this thread is a shadowy reference to Christians finding themselves in the tribulation when they didn't think they would be going through it… What was the point of this article written by Nathan??
Then, you follow it up with your blog. Sorry, but I've seen your posts one too many times not to understand what you were doing.
Hi Gideon, I think the point was clear. I think you saw my name and, well, look where that presupposition lead …
Mitchell said "Hi Billy, not sure why you're under the impression that I only post here when it is related to the pre-trib rapture."
I checked out those blog posts you listed and YOU ARE RIGHT! I'd forgotten…you weren't known to me as the guy EXCLUSIVELY posting anti-pre-trib. You were known to me as the guy who posted 5,000 word novels as comments!
The Wilkersons Visions blog you linked had 127 comments!!!
Okay, okay…'nuff of my nonsense.
Post more often Mitchell…we miss you! God bless!
Mitchell, you missed my point. In fact I used to be post-trib myself and I changed my mind – did you forget? It was the fact that you’ve asserted in the past that pre-trib has no good points. I find that strange after 20 yrs of adhering to a position.
No rapture but the coming will be all eyes sees Him.
Happened after the two witness are killed yet live again after three days.
Then the coming of the Lord Yeshua to rule the world for a thousand years, and from here eternity even to all the stars on and on forever.
Only the saved and all sons and daughters of God can enjoy all these. Amen.
I thought Mitchell's request that the Pre/Post-Trib debate be waged on his blog was an excellent one. Here we've beat that dead horse so much the bones have been ground to dust.
Great article and I feel the exact same way. Thanks for articulating it for others to read.
I am not going to debate the pre/post timing of the rapture, but would simply ask our post-trib friends here to reconcile Mark 13:32-37 with the post-trib position.
If the post-trib position is correct, we are not looking for Christ, but the Antichrist. We are saying that Jesus cannot possibly come at any moment, so we don't need to listen to the admonition of our Lord in those verses where He commands us to watch and to stay alert and to be ready for HIS return for His bride.
As for his assertion that there aren't any good points supporting the pre-trib position based in Scripture and sound reasoning, that is just patently false.
"What?! What happened! ;)"
RG saw that the post-trib view doesn't mesh with the Bible. In every instance of God personally passing judgment upon the earth or a civilization He has removed the righteous. In fact, the angels sent to warn Lot physically removed him and told him that judgment could not begin until he had left. In other words, God would not carry out judgment with just one righteous man living in a fallen society. Malachi 3 states that God never changes, so post-tribbers must think that God does change his stance….
It amazes me that post-tribbers constantly come to pre-trib sites to debate and try to change minds…??? Why? This isn't a salvation issue, so their motives to me are very suspect. I have never felt the need to go to a mid or post-trib site to try and talk sense into them.
Gideon, one of the things that I notice about pre-trib critics is that they generally have two sets of standards. They’ll grasp at something inferred that may favor their arguments, but if a pretribber does the same thing, all wrath breaks loose 😉
Just saw your post, Nathan. I'm retiring from the conversation until the next full moon.
Again, out of respect for Nathan, I won't debate the issue here, as much as I may want to. I have been down this road with these arguments so many times before and I am very confident in my answers.
You can continue to look for the rise of the Antichrist, I will continue to look for my Lord who will receive His bride unto Himself in the twinkling of an eye.
Peace to you.
I forgot to respond to Mitchell. Full moon can wait for a sec.
One of the first serious books on eschatology I read was Pawson’s. Why did I change my mind? I checked out the sorts of arguments such as you’ve posted above, and here umpteen times before, and compared them with the pre-trib responses. They have them you know. They use Greek grammar as well!
I’m really done now, Nathan.
Yes, I'll delete any debate comments about Rapture timing going forward. That's not the purpose of this article. Feel free to debate Mitchell on his site. He loves the attention.
I don't think there is any need for more debate. Todd's last comment summed it all up!
Nathan, great article! I have been feeling the same way. I have been watching and wondering what is going to happen: war breaking out in the Middle East? global economy being plunged into a depression? History has demonstrated that when the global market goes into a depression a World War follows.
We will watch and we will pray!
I find many Biblical statements here that are supposed to be based on Revelation. However, they are OLD interpretations – meaning more understanding has been given and many of your arguments no longer "hold water." I look at your statements and I shake my head because you appear to be listening to and reading the books of prophets that are making much money off of the book of Revelation when in fact it is the "little people" that are making no money off of Revelation that the Lord has opened up greater understanding.
Will you miss the Lord's return all together because you are still buried in erroneous interpretations?
I didn't join in this discussion to get into the arguments because the people that are doing this are NOT going to view and accept alternate interpretations – BUT I will say that I appreciate the article as written.
Whether Jesus is coming to "rapture us" or to "hide us in a "chamber" as the word states until the time of wrath is over – I don't think any of us will have all the answers until we "look back." The Lord has shown me MUCH about what is coming – but more answers have meant more questions.
Sometimes we are not meant to have all the answers worked out ahead of time. But it IS important we each hear His voice because the biggest deception ever on earth I believe will be here in front of us on or before Nov 11, 2011, if we are still here.
I look with eagerness for the Lord – I hope to be counted worthy to avoid all that's coming on the earth. The world is so very evil now and it is only going to get much much worse.
I agree with the article. Thank you for bringing many signs together in one place.
Getting back to one of your earlier thoughts (not a pre-trib debate)…
The following news story does support your premises, and I suspect the premise of most of us here, that yes, we Christians CAN face tribulations (not THE tribulation) prior to the Rapture.
From FOX News: "An Iranian pastor who has refused to renounce his Christian faith faces execution as early as Wednesday after his sentence was upheld by an Iranian court."
This is not the first time this has happened to a fellow Christian. But seeing a picture of this brother in Christ with his family, knowing what our fellow Christians are facing RIGHT NOW around the world, and knowing, YES, this CAN happen here (especially with a President like Barak HUSSEIN Obama and all the liberal Christian haters in politics, the media, entertainment, financial powerbrokers, AND Chrino (Christian in name only) church leaders…yes, it CAN happen here very, very soon.
So…WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT IT????
Why aren't we protesting in the streets? Why aren't we doing SOMETHING???!!!
I admit I'm just as guily of inaction as anyone.
Anyone have any suggestions on what one can do???
We can and need to pray for his deliverance, that is what I have been doing.
I don't think anyone could have given a better answer.
The fast that MOST of you people would WILLINGLY aid and abet the anti-christ so you can be 'saved' is the height of your selfishness and your deepest enslavement to the false prophet….God gave you IMPOSSIBLE task to ponder….things that the Good god can see to accomplish. Y'all revel in the promiscuity and immorality of your "faith" and harbour such lustful exaltation speaking like magnificent 'GOD'…PRIDE!the greatest of all sin lies stinking from your cores….How DARE you presume to know God's TEMPLE……did Jesus not say HE WAS THE TEMPLE…….to LUST after the deaths of INNOCENT MUSLIM CHILDREN ….to sit there and JUSTIFY the BARBARITY that is Israel…..did not Jesus say suffer the little children unto me…….Which CITY is that WHORE that sits on MANY WATERS…WHICH WHORE has fornicated with the Kings of the EARTH….none other than JERUSALEM……..and there you preach and quote like the false prophets – FROGS coming out of your mouths….while you LUST for KILLING, MURDER and death…….be not so quick…..the Wisdom of Solomon is that the mother of the child would sacrifice it to keep the child ALIVE while YOU would tear it from limb to limb – salivating like possessed pigs…….YES there is something VERY WRONG with our WORLD and it emanates from you Christian Zealots that have pnly hate and no LOVE…..or compassion….as the Christ said VERY VERY CLEARLY …..HE BRINGS YOU ONE COMMANDMENT ONLY – "LOVE" all other word, quotes,saints or apostles, old or new testament are but useless and can be summed up in one word LOVE…..DO YOU HAVE LOVE….would you LOVINGLY DIE FOR YOU MUSLIM BROTHER….HANG YOURSELF ON THE CROSS LIKE YOUR SAVIOR ….TURN YOUR OTHER CHEEK…..and FORGIVE YOUR MURDERERS THE WAY the CHIRST FORGAVE ALL THAT DID MURDER HIM……..LOVE…..all else is the vanity of the evil one………………LOVE does no harm to it's neighbor, therefore LOVE is the fulfillment of the law.
Hi Billy, we definitely need to keep our brothers and sisters who are being persecuted daily in prayer. Father, give them strength.
I, too, would rather not engage in any pre vs post debate here. In addition to the article you posted, here are a few others that all too often we never hear about here in the West. The following are some article headings, which can be read here. This is just the tip of the iceberg:
Islamists Again Behead Another for Leaving Islam and Converting to Christianity
Islamic Militants Behead 11 Civilians in Mogadishu, ‘We Wake Up With Beheaded Bodies on the Streets Every Day’
Muslims Behead Four Ex-Muslim Christian Orphanage Workers
Muslim Extremists Killing Christians in Two States in Effort to ‘Cleanse’ Islamic Land, Entire Christian Families Among Those Killed
Failed Bomb Blasts in Jos Nigeria as Genocide of Christians Continue
Somali Rebels ‘Behead Spies And Christians’
Christian Aid Workers in Somalia Beheaded for Converting from Islam
More Details of Gruesome Beheading of Afghan Christian Surfaces
Islamists Slaughter Christians in Nigeria, Obama Looks the Other Way
‘Near-Genocide Conditions’ for Iraqi Christians, Archbishop Says
Imam in Norway: Behead Those Who Do Not Observe Ramadan or Pray to Allah
Christian Beheaded by Islamists, More Face a Menacing Upsurge in Attacks Across the World
Pakistan: Christian Man Goes Into Hiding After Told by Islamists to ‘Convert or Die’
End-Times Muslim Beheadings of Christians on the Rise
Bishop Fears Genocide of North Sudanese Christians by Islamists Once South Gains Independence
To go along with Nathan's article, I think it's important to note that the Islamic world is boiling. It is raging. It longs to see the fulfillment of an Islamic 'Judgment Day' wherein they wage a new wave of jihad to force Islam upon the whole world, killing all who resist. The fact that the 'Arab Spring' is giving rise to a new breed of radical Islam is no coincidence imho. History is about to repeat itself:
"Jihad destroyed a Christian Middle East and a Christian North Africa. Soon it was the fate of the Persian Zoroastrian and the Hindu to be the victims of jihad. The history of political Islam is the destruction of Christianity in the Middle East, Egypt, Turkey and North Africa. Half of Christianity was lost. Before Islam, North Africa was the southern part of Europe (part of the Roman Empire). Around 60 million Christians were slaughtered during the jihadic conquest…
The Jews became permanent dhimmis throughout Islam. In Africa over 120 million Christians and animists have died over the last 1400 years of jihad.
Approximately 270 million nonbelievers died over the last 1400 years for the glory of political Islam. These are the Tears of Jihad which are not taught in any school.” (FrontPage Magazine Feb. 2007).
Today, nearly 165,000 Christians are killed every year just because of the fact that they are Christian. That's one Christian every three minutes, and the numbers are growing.
So, as Nathan asked, "Do you feel as if something really big is ready to go down?" You bet.
Anon, "Sometimes we are not meant to have all the answers worked out ahead of time. But it IS important we each hear His voice because the biggest deception ever on earth I believe will be here in front of us on or before Nov 11, 2011, if we are still here."
Why November 11, 2011?
Please remove the anti-Israel rant, what a bunch of garbage that doesn't deserve the bit reservations on your hard drive.
11/11/11 is a very unique date indeed…..I have no quarrel with your Christian faith only that it has devolved into a barbaric and satanically possessed superstition far removed from the very precise words of the savior LIGHT of the gentiles…..today – New Year – one could re-count barbarity upon barbarity inflicted by both sides of any COINS….white phosphorous poured on women and Children of GAZA , harvested organs, depleted uranium tipped weapons – Shakespeare's Shylock could rant as a palestinian today and say '… do we not revenge'….the millions dead in iraq from our own gullibility in believing the fairytale of 9/11….a World ransacked by and manipulated by dark forces that seek – what is beyond our understanding….this is the time to be very clear on where we stand by the guidance of Love and Compassion…..the use of psalm 46 on 9/11/01 when the 'falling star" the Comet Elenin was in perihelion with the Sun….when somebody uttered the words "Be still and know that I AM GOD" inthe re-constructed remnants of that 'Temple' the WTC which the Architect Mimoru Yamasaki built as a replica of the Grand Mosque in Mecca – the Masjid Al-haram …the Houses of the Holy…..gave me pause to ponder the scriptures…"anti-israel rant" HA! anyone that encourages Israel on her path right now encourages the deaths of millions and the murder of innocents in particular of ISRAEL itself! are you so foolish not to see that ….would you sacrifice MILLIONS on your altar…do you not see the dark forces guide you to destruction, murder and mayham…are you so LUSTFUL to see a MATERIAL TEMPLE …Herodian platforms and ancient stone re-surrected to fulfill some "prophecy" that you barely understand that YOU would risk ONE life of a child of ANY NATIONALITY…..is your bloodlust so ingrained and your PRIDE so entrenched that your hate festers so that you can't see LOVE. AWAKE to Compassion – God stilled the hand of Abraham before he sacrificed isaac may he still yours before you sacrifice the World.
I second Todd's request, Nathan. That kind of garbage isn't needed here.
This person obviously doesn't support a nation's right to defend itself and doesn't take the time to research for himself. He accepts the spoon-fed propaganda coming from anti Semitic sources. Notice he never rants about the rockets terrorists fire at innocent Israeli citizens nor the recent deaths of an Israeli man and his toddler son from rock-throwing Palestinians. Their crime, they were Jewish and driving down the street. He doesn't speak about the fact that Israeli elementary schools had to arm their teachers after Palestinian terrorists had targeted elementary children while they were at school! He doesn't mention the fact that Hamas produces children television programs that tell them to kill Jews.
Barbaric.. please, that is laughable! The terrorist group you support through your silence are in league with their father, Satan.
Something is coming, too scared to give your name. Jesus will return for us, and you will be left on earth for the worst time in earth's history. Jesus said the generation that sees the rebirth of Israel(May 14, 1948) will be the generation that sees his return. Daniel chapter 9 offers us hard proof that Jesus is the Messiah, the Christ, King of Kings. You too can be removed from the coming tribulation(Revelation 3:10) by accepting Jesus Christ as your savior. It is your choice.
Wow another unscriptural rant from Mr. Anonymous.
Here is the bottom line regarding Israel.
If the Palestinians and the surrounding Arab nations would lay down their arms there would be peace, if Israel laid down her arms there would be no more Israel.
You had better wake up, because you are very deceived about the facts and have been blinded by the resulting rage.
All of what you see currently in the geopolitcal arena is what has been prophesied in the Bible.
Your assertion that Christians have some sort of bloodlust is simply crazy. We aren't the one's blowing people up with bombs strapped to our bodies, beheading people because they don't agree with our faith, etc.
You are out of line with your attacks.
I have a question for you though.
Who do you say that Jesus is?
Todd, "Please remove the anti-Israel rant, what a bunch of garbage that doesn't deserve the bit reservations on your hard drive."
I'm actually fascinated reading Anti-Semitic Anonymous. It's like reading the Koran, rage and rant and no love, despite claiming love.
It's also a living example of what the mindset will be like post-Rapture. We're reading just what almost everyone will be thinking when the Restrainer is removed… an irrational hatred of all things Jewish.
Anti-Semitic Anonymous, I hope you remember this site after the Rapture and see God's victory over the Islamic world (read Ezekiel 38-39) and come to know Christ as your Savior. Jesus' offer is open to all.
and to dear nathan …..it is than that the scriptures say the so called 'faithful" would say to their Savior we did your work and he would answer you …"I do NOT KNOW YOU"…….be careful of quoting scripture…the ends do not justify the means….seek not Rapture…..let it seek you….prepare your lamps and oil, make yourself fresh and clean…you do not know the day or the hour…..follow the example and WORDS of the Christ……..LOVE……love one another as he LOVES you.
also I highly re-commend "Revelations of the Pyramids" the change you seek in UNIVERSAL and available to ALL…the Intelligent Source left it for ALL humanity …. but very most importantly in reading the astronomical signs ….just as the Star signalled the birth ….so do the Heavens signal the changes…open your minds to wider and greater concepts…..the Divine is very close but no one knows when! do not be lost in murder and confusion, lust and delusion….the Divine works in the most mysterious ways and he left you the most important tool to guide you LOVE.
Leave that hate on there for all to see. Deleting it won't make it go away. We NEED to know people such as Anon are out there.
Well said, Nathan.
I also agree with you, Billy.
There's another form of anti-Semitism that I can't abide because it's insidious and clothed in piety. This one comes from those who hold to replacement theology and actively move against Israel based on trumped up charges.
Please answer my question.
Who do you say Jesus is?
Interesting that Anon keeps mentioning Jesus. The muslims deny the devinity of Christ, His death and resurrection.
I remember browsing through the koran (small caps on purpose, and not the "holy koorrrrraan" as Obama is so fond of saying) and I found a part that says if God wanted a son he would not be born via a human, God would just say "be" and he would be. It also denied Jesus died on the cross.
Nathan, you are so right, Anon is the example of what is to come. God help those left behind to find the truth in Jesus.
A lot of what AntiSemitic Anon says is incoherent babel. I have yet to see a complete thought in any of the posts. I see a lot of ranting and quite a few platitudes.
Todd, I doubt he will answer you question.
@Todd….WOW! do not seek to be Magnificient that is the sin of the Evil one – the Sin of Pride!…..".who do I say jesus is" WHO is JESUS to YOU?? do you think he is a thing, an object, an idea, a person…..do you really think you can warp your mind around the Divine……incomprehensible vanity…..which is why he gave you such a SIMPLE tool to HELP simpletons like us…..LOVE….that is all there is, has been and ever will be………
Quite the contrary. You CAN have a PERSONAL relationship with Jesus…the one true Jesus…the Jesus of the CHRISTIAN faith.
If you aren't a Christian, think about that…it's there for you…it's up to you.
Let's wrap out minds around this:
Then He said to Thomas, "Reach here with your finger, and see My hands; and reach here your hand and put it into My side; and do not be unbelieving, but believing." Thomas answered and said to Him, "My Lord and my God!" Jesus said to him, "Because you have seen Me, have you believed? Blessed are they who did not see, and yet believed." John 20:27-29
They are dunk with demonic possession, drunk with demonic delusions…….the LIGHT blinds demons which why you do not see and cannot hear…..but you can always try to feel…………"and I Tiresias who have fore suffered all, I who have slept by Thebes below the wall and walk amongst the Lowest of the Dead – bestows one final patronizing Kiss and gropes his way finding the stairs un-lit……." The Fire Sermon…..
As I said, ASA refuses to answer the question and gives us more platitudes. ASA, are you afraid of letting us know what you really believe? An avoidance of the question, which you just demonstrated, speaks volumes.
ASA, you are speaking to people who read their Bibles, are secure in what we believe. I have news for you, if you believe you are a Christian and follow Jesus, then, you have a major problem with your views on Israel. I would suggest you read (notice I didn't say re-read) starting with Romans 11:25. I would then suggest you read Isaiah 66 and Ezekiel 36-40. Following your reading, I would suggest you repent of your hatred.
So now you give us a "sermon" from a mythical Greek character….
Anti-Semitic Anonymous, how can you say love everyone is the answer when you hate the Jews? (very existential question, realizing your error you might wink out of existence 😉
If Jesus is the embodiment of love (1 Jn. 3:16), then when he says that we must believe in Him to be saved (Jn. 3:16; 14:6) and to take up our cross and follow Him (Mat. 16:24), then there is more to salvation and living than just love. There's also the need to realize we're sinners, repent of our sins, and believe in God's Son Jesus as our only Savior. Without the forgiveness of sin by the shedding of Christ's blood, there is no salvation and eternal life (Heb. 9:22).
I will ask you for a third time, who do you say that Jesus is? I can and will articulate my answer when and if you answer the question. I asked you first.
Your loose usage of Scripture does not impress me, nor do your hateful, rambling posts. Satan played similar games with God's Word in the wilderness.
Please answer the simple question. I believedyou are here for a reason.
What I am getting from ASA's posts is that he is a New Ager. He is most likely into Universalism, everything is God and every path leads to God. This is why he keeps using the terms LOVE and LIGHT. Why he is into the 11/11/11 date, Pyramid videos, and now has posted a fake sermon from Greek mythology.
I think it is perfect that he posted here because he is exactly the type that will bow and worship the antichrist unless he changes his heart.
Agree, Gideon, totally sounds New Age. They're the one's who after the Rapture will be rejoicing we're all gone so we can't impede the evolutionary process.
Can you just imagine all the peoples of the world running around with this mindset? No wonder all these "loving" people will be killing the Trib Saints and Jews left and right.
Unfortunately I can imagine that, Nathan. ASA has demonstrated his hate for Jews already. New Agers are easily swayed and convinced of lies that tickle their ears. There is no measuring stick, no hard proof of their belief system, but it pleases the flesh and their carnal desires, so they never seek proof. This is evidence of those that will believe every word the antichrist tells them and marvel at all the false miracles the antichrist performs.
Mitchell, you said you would be keeping a timing debate to your website and you should stay true to what you said. Everybody take it there.
Fear comes in many forms, even fear of the truth among those who claim to be bearers of it.
I'm quite surprised that this person could qualify as a "new age" follower. I didn't know they could be like that. I thought they were more like the woman who sits in front of me at work. She says things like "god is in you" aka you are god; "there is no evil" aka everyone does what they think is right so there is no wrong, etc. On the other hand, she also has the misinformed view of better to rule in hell than serve in heaven. How does anyone believe such malarkey. She will sadly find out no one will rule in hell.
Anon's rants sound like a crazy muslim to me but I dont' discount they are new age either (just surprised). But in the end all these new age, muslim, chrino, whatevers will be united with the evil one that they will believe to be god. And no, I can't imagine the horror that is to come. Those poor, poor believers to be in the tribulation.
I guarantee if you ask her about the right subject she will condone violence, possibly even murder. Ask her how she feels about George Bush? About Christians that pray outside abortion clinics? How she feels about Israel?
The anon poster was a new ager, and he left because we figured him out, and his charade was up.
I just KNEW my beastly birthday would get in the way of 'citing comments.
Nathan PLEASE tell me the anti-semitic loon aint a Brit; it was so manic I couldn't tell what he/she was exuding from their over productive 'scent' glands?
That ain't all, Sue. Nathan went on a rampage and deleted a large bunch of rapture debate posts. He did warn us first tho. Guess we couldn't help ourselves.
I'm not sure about her. She would not even say Osama bin Laden was evil!!! He was doing what he thought was right to him! I've tried to bait her to say something bad about anything but without success. She also says she doesn't need a savior because we are all good.
The sad part is she really is a very nice, kind person. But as Christians we know that isn't going to save you.
Good for Nathan, he said what he meant and meant what he said!
I said "I've tried to bait her to say something bad about anything but without success."
What I meant was I've tried to get her to admit evil exists.
I knew what you meant. Ask her if she has ever lied, has she ever had a bad thought about another person who made her mad. If she says no, she is lying to you. If she didn't have a problem with Osama than ask her if Hitler was just doing what he thought was right. Tell her to research Nazi Germany and how they were able to get everyday citizens to murder innocent Jews. Every human has a fallen sin nature. This woman is no different. It sounds like she condones evil acts, she is weak minded. She actually stands for nothing.
E.I., sorry, I don't know what the country of origin was. If I could track you all would I then be called the False Prophet? 😉
I asked her if she lied and had bad thoughts…she said yes. I said doesn't she have to pay for that. She said no, just move on. I said isn't it a sin. She said she doesn't like the word sin, she prefers "missing the mark". She said it is just semantics. She said "sin" is too negative and makes a person feel bad.
AHA! That's why they have those views on sin. They want to avoid the guilt and the responsibility for their actions. They know it is wrong but pretend it is not.
I told her I feel bad when I sin but I have Jesus to take care of it for me. She said that is good for me and her way is good for her. She isn't the only one at my workplace with such views.
Billy, axe her to try and stretch that "no, just move on" argument over into court and see how far it flies.
She could be the most sought-after defense liaryer if she could get even one jury to buy it and help her 'clients' to escape "justice" with it.
After all, it works in her mind, should work in court too… isn't that all that 'really' counts?!?
If she were unfortunate enough to be horribly attacked would she say of her molestor that was the right thing for him?
Before I had my babes I was so pompous thinking that I could NEVER do anything really wicked. Then I had my twinkles and I KNEW without a shadow of doubt I was capable of killing a person to protect them. Throttling someone may have felt good for me after an attacker tried to harm my children but the last thing I would have said was that the attacker was doing something that was right for him to do.
In my opinion, your work mate
sounds idealisticly young and inexperienced and has yet to face the harsh realities life can chuck at us without warning.
Ask her Billy; paint an explicit mental picture of a lurid crime against herself or someone she loves and see how honest she can be about sin then!
as for global change, muslims are on the march…
informed rational freedom loving people have all the reasons in the world to fear islam…
Mohamhead was a 7th century murdering warlord who rose to power on a river of blood surrounded by thugs and gangsters using intimidation, violence, deception and trickery to expand their criminal empire while mercilessly suppressing and killing their opponents and enriching themselves on stolen booty.
The evil koran is a collection of sayings and speeches by this diabolical madman claiming divine guidance from some mythical sky-god which has inspired generations of crazed fanatics to abhorrent behavior resulting in historys worst ever crimes against humanity starting 1400 years ago and still continuing even today.
Islam is just another fascist totalitarian ideology used by power hungry fanatics on yet another quest for worldwide domination and includes all the usual human rights abuses & suppression of freedoms.
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I'm grateful to have found your article. I found it just after praying from a heavy heart at what you appear to have also discerned as the hopelessness that is all around us in this world. But Christ Jesus has not left His true Church without hope, but has provided the way of escape. We are a purchased possession, and our Redeemer is soon to come to redeem us that belong to Him, and a glorious future awaits us.
I want to thank you for the beautiful ending to this article that I believe was meant to encourage believers in Christ. I pray that many were encouraged to be ready and to keep looking up. Thank you for the encouragement and for your ministry.
"Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.
In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.
And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know." – John 14:1-4