The Christ in Prophecy Journal

The Importance of Israel: Not an Apartheid State

Jim Fletcher


Why is it outrageous for our politicians to label Israel an apartheid state?

To answer that question, Dr. David Reagan and I on our television program Christ in Prophecy invited Jim Fletcher, the founder and director of a ministry in Arkansas called Prophecy Matters. Jim has been an author and book editor for many years, and when in the 1990’s took his first trip to Israel to do some book research, he became hooked on the nation and people. Jim is now a strong advocate for Israel.

Not an Apartheid State

Dr. Reagan: Israel is always being accused of being an apartheid state. What would be your defense of Israel on that?

Jim Fletcher: First of all, it’s an effective political cudgel to use against Israel, because people want to make the comparison of them to South Africa in oppressing their citizens. But, in fact, there’s no such comparison to be made. Israel is the only open society in the Middle East. There are Arabs serving in the Knesset and the Supreme Court. They work in Israel and hold high positions. The standard of living for a Palestinian in Israel is dramatically higher than it is in the rest of the Middle East.

Dr. Reagan: Certainly they are not practicing apartheid, because they have Palestinians living in their own land, whereas the Jews have been evicted from all of the Arab nations. Most people don’t know that after the 1956 Suez War most of the Jews were ejected from Arab lands and given as little as a week to get out. All their belongings were confiscated. Israel ended up with millions of refugees.

Jim Fletcher: That’s exactly right. A friend of mine, Lela Gilbert, wrote a book called Saturday People, Sunday People. In it, she talked about the fact that many people are unaware that Israel absorbed more refugees than the Arabs that left Israel proper.

Dr. Reagan: Yes, and the reason the Arab nations won’t absorb Palestinian refugees is because they want to use them as a political pawn on the world scene.

Trading Land for Peace

Dr. Reagan: Another question I have is, what’s your attitude about the current policy that the United States of America has forced on Israel. That’s the policy of trading land for peace?

Jim Fletcher: That policy really goes back to the Johnson administration. All American administrations since Johnson basically have called for the “land for peace” scenario. It depends on the friendliness of the sitting president as to how much pressure is applied on Israel. The problem is that this process has gone on for so long that the pressure is now intensifying on Israel.

Dr. Reagan: The one who put the real hammer on them though was the first President Bush, because they had this influx of emigrates from Russia. In fact, Israel absorbed more people in about a two year period of time, which would be equivalent to the United States absorbing the entire population of France in a year’s time. They were overwhelmed. And so, Israel went to the World Bank wanting a ten billion dollar loan. The World Bank said, “The United States will have to underwrite it.” So, Israel came to the United States. The first Bush said to the effect, “Okay, tell you what, I’ll underwrite it under one condition. You must go to the Madrid Conference and start trading land for peace.” We’re the ones who forced them to do that.

Jim Baker, who was the Secretary of State at the time, was one of the most anti-semitic Secretaries of State we’ve ever had. In fact, I think it was interesting that the very first thing he did after he ceased being Secretary of State was he arranged to have Arafat come to Houston, Texas and receive an honorary degree from Rice Institute. To me, that’s like Hitler receiving an honorary degree.

Jim Fletcher: We make a mistake if we think that American leadership has always been friendly to Israel. In fact, it’s often as you said — been very unfriendly. Our current administration has an unfriendly relationship with Israel at this very moment.

Dr. Reagan: Is Israel going to gain peace by trading land?

Jim Fletcher: No, obviously not. Look at former Prime Minister Sharon’s decision to pull out of Gaza in 2005. He did that to curry favor with George W. Bush. But, the plain fact is that there’s no amount of concessions that will satisfy Israel’s enemies. The core issue is Arab rejection of Israel as the Jewish state.

Dr. Reagan: That’s right. People evidently have forgotten history, because history has shown us that appeasement does nothing but whet the appetite of the aggressor. The Arabs just think, “Hey, if I pressured them into giving me that, then I’ll just do it again and get even more.”

The Arabs in the Middle East are following the plan that was developed a long time ago by Mahmoud Abbas and Arafat together. That plan was this. They schemed, “We’ll never defeat Israel militarily, so what we’ll do is we’ll attack them diplomatically and we’ll just keep making demands until finally we’ll have enough land to launch a final attack.”

Jim Fletcher: That’s right. A lot of people are unaware that the Soviets schooled Arafat and Abbas in ways of attacking Israel diplomatically and politically. They literally brought them in and gave them a blueprint for how to do it. They basically said to Arafat, “Look, you are blowing planes up and you’re killing people and there’s blood on TV. You have to change your MO and become a freedom fighter.” And, that’s exactly what they became.

Dr. Reagan: Then you get Arafat receiving the Noble Prize for being the greatest terrorist of the 20th Century. This is just mind boggling to me that this happened.

Jim Fletcher: Yes, it is. It’s as Isaiah said, “good is evil and evil is good.”

Dr. Reagan: And that’s where we are in the world today. We call good “evil” and evil “good.”

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Dr. Nathan E. Jones

As the Internet Evangelist at Lamb & Lion Ministries, Nathan reaches out to the over 4.5 billion people accessible over the Internet with the Good News of Jesus Christ. He also co-hosts the ministry's television program Christ in Prophecy and podcast The Truth Will Set You Free.

3 CommentsLeave a Comment

  • The question is, "How long will Israel claim themselves victims and not accept responsibility for partitioning the land to terrorist"?

    I firmly believe that Israel is currently suffering the consequences of disobedience to God as they have rewarded terrorists with his land. In essence Israel appears to be their own worst enemy.

    The people of Israel and the United States share a common trait in this regard that their politicians create a security nightmare, and expect their citizens and military personnel to suffer the consequences of erroneous policies that put them all in danger.

  • Israel aspires to be identified as a Jewish State yet I am hard pressed to find evidence of it. Israel denies the right of its Jewish citizens to worship or pray on the holiest site in Judaism (Temple Mount), prevent unauthorized Jewish settlements against the biblical mandate to settle the land, and finally allows a false god to be honored on the sacred Temple Mount in the very heart of their land. Where is the evidence of a Jewish State, that golden dome sure does not look Jewish to me?

  • The Times of the Gentiles havent finished yet, its said that the Holy Place will be trodden down by the Gentiles until the times of the gentiles are fulfilled. Israel is back in the land from the four corners of the earth for the first time but in unbelief. Its prep for God to destroy the final gentile nations under the son of perdition or antichrist. Jesus will destroy him at his second coming to earth and rescue repentant Israel from destruction. then Israel will be regarthered from the whole earth for the second time but in belief that Jesus was/is their promised messiah. this now is only the start of the end. Its all told in psalms and Isaiah most of all. if you look in a concordnce you will see that what I have said is really in the Old Testament that interprets the New.
    one other thing, the Jews re took Jerusalem but their general Dyan, with the patch on his eye, gave the temple mount area back for Jordan to care as good will to the arabs, but Jordan betrayed the Jews. Jordan is Palestine, That took care of Gods prophecy about the times of the gentiles. He has made Jerusalem a cup of trembling and a stone of burden around the neck of all the nations. they are all touching the apple of Gods eye and he will make sure he will keep all his promises to his people the Jews of Israel.
    Israel is Israel made of Jewish people with a land on earth and a seed Jesus.
    The Church is the Church made of Jews and gentiles with a place in heaven not on the earth. If God broke his promises to Israel then how can the church now for sure that the church will have all her promises?
    That means two people of God not just one.


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