Nathan Jones: Jesus prophesied that in the end times there would be ethnos against ethnos — race against race. With all the anti-racism riots going on here in the United States, have we reached that end times sign? I’ve brought my good friend and fellow evangelist, Don Perkins of According to Prophecy Ministries, to help answer that question.
Don, Jesus prophesied in Matthew 24:7 that in the last days it would be nation against nation, which we know in the original Greek was ethnos versus ethnos, or race versus race. In other words, one of the signs of the end times would be a rise in racism. Don, I’d like to know if you believe that an increase in racism is a sign of the end times?
Also, can we find a cure for racism? For instance, Black Entertainment Television’s (BET) president Robert Johnson says the cure to racism is $14 trillion dollars in reparations. Are reparations the answer, or does the answer go much deeper?
Don Perkins: The answer goes a whole lot deeper. As a matter of fact, the crux of the matter concerning racism is sin. Racism is a sin problem. You cannot throw enough dollars at this problem to fix it. The only way the problem of racism can be solved is by accepting Jesus Christ. Jesus is the remedy for racism.
We’ve got racism across all the different ethnos’ and nations. There’s racism everywhere. There’s racism between black and white and black and other ethnicities and so on, so racism is everywhere. What I’ve found out is that a lot of people are racists themselves, even those who try to complain about it. A lot of these social justice warriors are racists themselves. They have not allowed the blood of Christ to touch their hearts.
I’ve personally seen racism in every race. And, I’ve seen the cure to that is Jesus Christ. We won’t see true peace in the land until the true Messiah sits on the throne. Again, I’ve met people who are true racists, but when they met Christ, I saw a change of heart. I’ve seen them change from the racism in their hearts to have their hearts become filled with the love of God. It’s amazing to see the love of God develop once their hearts are given over based on their walk with God. So, racism needs a change of heart. And again, it only comes through Jesus Christ.
Truly, though, these race riots are a definite sign of the end times. As we witness the chaos that is going on in the streets today, it’s truly a latter-day sign pointing to the return of Christ.
Nathan Jones: Don, you keep hearing the Media and crowds claim that the United States is a “racist country” and that we have “systemic racism.” As you said, what race doesn’t have their racists? I like to think that we are all part of the human race, but then there will be people who will call me a racist for saying that, which in and of itself is a racist statement, so there’s no end to it.
I love what Jesus taught in Matthew 22:36-40 where He gave the two greatest commandments: “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”
Can you imagine what a world this would be like if we in a culture that has forgotten God remembered God, and we loved God, and showed God’s love to other people? Did Jesus just provide us with the answer to racism?
Don Perkins: Sure, the love of God is the cure. Something that we can definitely look forward to that’s taught in Bible prophecy is what the world will be like entering into the Millennial Kingdom and further on into the Eternal State. Then we will experience first-hand this unconditional love that God showed by sending His Son to die for humanity’s sins.
We know that back in Genesis 4:8 the first murder occurred when Abel was killed by his brother Cain. Hatred of his brother came in which became the forerunner or a type of racism, because likewise, Cain hated his brother and what he did. Today, what we have in the streets is hatred among black and white and different other races who are really all brothers and sisters.
When it comes to “systemic racism,” the problem is that humanity does not have Jesus Christ. I’ve met black racists; I’ve met white racists; I’ve met Filipino racists. It seems like I’ve met every racist under the sun. So, all humanity has a sin problem and the only way that’s going to be resolved is by accepting Jesus Christ as Savior. That’s the only way! I know I love everybody, but that’s because of the love of Jesus working in and through me.
Nathan Jones: Beautifully said, Don! I think of the Church as supposed to be a little bit of Heaven on earth. I love that my church is multiracial. We look at each other as people. We don’t look at each other as skin color. And, that’s what Heaven is going to be like. Ethnicities won’t matter anymore. After all, we’re supposed to look like ourselves in Heaven, right, so that means we’re still going to be the same color that we are now for all of eternity. We’ll all be one race — the human race — and there won’t be any hate.
Don Perkins: We will become the family of God.
Nathan Jones: Thank you, Don, for clearing that up. Folks, if you are looking for a cure for racism, Don said it. It’s the love of God, it’s compassion for other people, and it’s forgiveness. It’s time to forgive each other. When you have those three things, you have the cure for racism.
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“It is foreign to my purpose to hint at the arguments which establish the truth of the Christian revelation. My only business is to declare, that all its doctrines and precepts are calculated to promote the happiness of society, and the safety and well being of civil government. A Christian cannot fail of being a republican. The history of the creation of man, and of the relation of our species to each other by birth, which is recorded in the Old Testament, is the best refutation that can be given to the divine right of kings, and the strongest argument that can be used in favor of the original and natural equality of all mankind.”
~Benjamin Rush, Of the Mode of Education Proper in a Republic (1798)
Thanks Don and Nathan! Great article!
I’m glad Lamb & Lion are speaking about this topic of racism because the true racists are creating the chaos, and demanding reparations. Not those of us who have given to many charities, and always treated our brothers well and in good faith are acting in violence or rioting, and stealing. Its really a condition of the heart because of sin, greed, intimidation, and self centeredness.
2 Timothy 3 says People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God…..having a form of Godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with such people.
Paul’s list of behavior in the last days describes our society around the world. Unfortunately, what society tells you to do is wrong for our life and everyone else’s lives.
Theres alot of people who live meaningless lives of vanity. They live to serve their own flesh. They are a burden to themselves and everyone around them.
Proverbs 1:24-31. God says. I have stretched out my hands. and no man regarded; But ye have set at nought of all my counsel, and would none of my reproof. I also will laugh at your calamity. So many have hated knowledge and did not choose to fear the Lord.
Therefore, shall they eat of the fruit of their own way, and be filled with their own ways, but those who harken to me shall dwell in safety, and shall be quiet from fear of evil.
When God created the world it was good: and earth, the animals, and man, the object of God’s love. But men have spurned God’s love by and turned to serving their own flesh and other gods. They have ridiculed God’s Son, Jesus and many have perverted the word of God.
Psalm 2:1-2. “Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the Lord, and against his anointed,” Jesus.
Nathan this article is great! the problem with America “I believe” is having much less to do with race and a lot more to do with basic respect for authority. The general Thought is that we should “fix the police“ but what has to happen is the public in general has to change their attitude to accept authority and do not fight authority and of course that all has to do with respect for authority “respect for the police“ if people had received general respect for the police most of this problem would go away. Young people are being being taught from an early age to disrespect the police, not have faith in the police, and generally be scared of the police And assume those in authority want to do them harm
Good point! The contempt shown by the Media and Democratic leadership towards Pres. Trump continues to undermine the Presidency in the eyes of our nation and the world, and thereby all authority.
Come on Nathan. Trump respects NO authority and children mimmick him in their daily behavior. Do not blame democrats. republicans are just as guilty.
Craig, I have to disagree that Pres. Trump respects no authority. He’s abided by the Supreme Court’s decisions and let States exercise their rights. He’d even work with Congress if they didn’t live to see him out of office.
I agree, the President and the American people are in their way, and fortunately millions of Americans and people of faith see through the manipulation of this country to push America into the One World Socialist government.
President Trump is no friend to the New World Order. He’s not a globalist, he’s an America first guy.
Yes Nathan, There is Contempt for Law and Order, and Authority, disrespect for truth, history, the blood that was shed for freedom, and God and his Word. It all makes me sick. I can see why America isn’t mentioned in the Bible in the last days, our history is taken away from us, we will no longer be a great nation, but just a nation of total chaos, lawlessness, and ungodliness, similar to Sodom and Gomorrah, and the Days of Noah.
We as a nation have rejected God just like Dr. Reagan said, we have taken him out of school prayer, we have allowed genocide of our next generations, and denied the creator and his Word, and served created things. This nation will not be blessed now? The Politicians in Congress and the Senate, who are supposed to be leaders and looking out for their constituents and their country have been out of the loop….they are cowardly……lovers of themselves. WE should be thankful that the Lord warned us of the signs of his coming, woe, woe to the inhabitants of the earth.
The problem with the issue of ‘racism’ is that it is a Left-Wing narrative, or story-line, which we do not see in the Bible; and which is often used against the ‘White Race’ (so-called) in the current context, as they are seen as the privileged, exploiting group, in a Marxian way. Yes, there will always be problems between different nations, ethnic groups, even in one State; such as the United States, or any other. I do think that an increase in these problems is a sign of the end, simply because we have brought the nations together, cheek by jowel, whereas God severed them into their own national homelands. When we do not follow God’s line we reap the outcomes; but that in itself, is a sign of the coming of the LORD.
I love your book The Mighty Angels of Revelation. You did a wonderful job including a lot of definitions which helped in the understanding of your topic.
Graduate Dallas Theological Seminary
With a Masters in Biblical Theology and Biblical Studies
Mike, so good to hear the Mighty Angels book was a blessing to you!
While I agree that Jesus is the solution for each person in the world to be the remedy for sin, I also believe that God’s Holy Spirit will give us discernment in these dark days. And I would suggest seeking for clarity from the Word of God in two related areas. One is the increasing deception even of Believers described in 1 Timothy 4:1 as “doctrine of demons”, and that is found today in Postmodern neo-Marxist ideology. It’s not just in the culture as a whole, but increasingly in the evangelical movement as well, we find leaders expressing the phrase, “Black Lives Matter.” In so doing, they give credence to what today is the most “popular” (60% approval) and yet at the same time one of the most demonic political movements in the country. The Bible is certainly clear that we are all made in the image of God, and that we must love God with all our heart and our neighbor as ourselves with the obvious implication, “regardless of anything”, which includes “race” and ethnicity. And yet we have evangelical seminaries stating that Critical Race Theory is bad, but then turning around and teaching students as if it is found in scripture.
Two mandatories right now for Believers with respect to racial issues, regardless of one’s skin color or ethnicity: (1) become informed in depth about Marxist groups such as Black Lives Matter, Antifa, SPLC, 90% of Academia, 90% of media, etc., and (2) learn as much as possible about the thinking of Black conservatives. People such as Voddie Baucham, Thomas Sowell, Walter E. Williams, Star Parker, Mason Weaver, Shelby Steele, Deneen Borelli, Stacy Washington, David Webb, Jesse Lee Peterson, Carol Swain, Larry Elder, Jason Riley, Ken Blackwell, Alveda King, Derryck Green, David Webb, Coleman Hughes, Ryan Bomberger, Allen West, Candace Owens, and other participants at Project 21; many are Christians, all highly successful, articulate, and not victims as proclaimed by Identity Politics, but who understand that there are intentional victimizers of the Black community; namely, the Postmodern/neo-Marxist Left, and their pernicious doctrines such as Identity Politics, Class Guilt, Critical Race Theory, and Intersectionality.
There are thousands like me who recognize that racial injustice has existed for thousands of years, even to this very day…in all corners of the world.
There are thousands like me who need a wake-up call to do more than yawn when we see and hear a call for action.
There are thousands like me who need to put our proverbial “money where our mouth is” to back programs that indeed foster equal opportunity for all.
There are thousands like me who call ourselves Christians but do not seek out the disadvantaged “Samaritan” with our offer of “living water” and love, as Jesus did.
There are thousands like me who watch peaceful protests turn into evil riots and wonder if the protests are driving the racial wedge even deeper, splitting our nation and society farther apart than ever.
There are thousands like me who believe that racism and prejudice are issues of the heart, issues that cannot be fixed with money or legislation…or riots. It is a cardiology problem that requires a heart transplant.
There are thousands like me who know that God still does “no-risk” heart transplants, and He wants to change hearts today, including mine… and He wants to change attitudes, including mine… and He wants to change the racism and prejudice, including in me… and He wants to change the evil rioting. He wants to change the evil taking of lives, and He wants to change the evil destruction of someone’s livelihood. It takes a heart transplant.
Dear God, search me, and see if there be any evil way in me. Cleanse me and change my heart. Start your work in me.
I don’t believe in racism. Those were the old days. Currently, it’s about issues people have confronting the person in the mirror. Not race. Jesus Christ is counting on us to make this place, earth, a peaceful residence for His coming. It’s too bad we’re not delivering. The news portrays black people as the bad guy and I’m coming to think of it as a gimmick. Nobody needs rescuing from themselves. People need to follow JC. I follow JC and I’m always fine around black people. God provides for me, a mexican American woman, that had limited chances in life. I’m ever grateful for the love God has for me. I want to share that love with everyone.
I just sent this to my pastor. Really, I am almost 65 years old and have seen racism on all sides and from all colors, but not too much really. The powers that be put us against each other to promote hate and hide that they don’t make things better. One day we will beat weapons into farming equipment and live serving God and Christ and be a brotherhood of man. Until then all bets are off. Our battle is not against flesh and blood but against powers that be in this world and in heavenly realms and what say you.
Is it racism if you don’t like the culture or behavior of the race/people? Their are races where their culture is about violence, civil war, rape…behavior that is completely wrong to a moral and other cultures. How can you be called a racist if you love the people but hate their culture that causes a lot of grief and pain…not only to themselves but to others?
As a person of color, Matthew 22:36-40 — My mantra… The thing that I believe is different today is the realization that the Matthew quote is now at the forefront of our faces when it should have been, of course, for a long time — this is the sum total of my ministry — ‘everything’ we do say and think can be evaluated by this statement. In a recent discussion, I was told it’s the “whiteness” that makes white people feel the way they do, which I thought was a woefully inadequate statement.
The interplay between the so-called races (Noah’s sons) tempered by a few thousand years of environmental alterations to our biochemistry, has made us enemies for some reason — which brings in the enemy of God to a fallen world. The case can be made in no other way but by the theological underpinnings. If we leave biblical theology out of the discussion we are lost in nonsensical debates about who is more superior — when both sides are in danger of hellfire.
The enemy of God is having his heyday, as predicted. Albeit, there has been a lot of psychological and subsequently spiritual damage that will never go away — many people are devastated by American cinema which many feel was the nail in the coffin as far as the Black race obtaining any chance of respect — and all of this in a country believing they replaced Israel.
Yet, (John 3:27) even if people of color had a very difficult time in the last several centuries, it cannot be compared to that of Jesus, but without the indwelling Holy Spirit, no one wants to hear that — thus, ministry… The bottom line is both Black and White men will be in hell and when 2 Corinthians 5:10 takes place — End-Time ministers have their work cut out. The Lord’s most important command overshadowing all others: Galatians 5: 14, The entire Law is fulfilled in a single decree: “Love your neighbor as yourself.” 15But if you keep on biting and devouring each other, watch out, or you will be consumed by each other.… The argument therefore must be theological.
Thank you so much gentlemen for your discussion. It was truly a help to me. Praise our Lord for His Word when we need encouragement and counsel in these times.
Nathan, i just read the article and I agree wholeheartedly with Don. My family and I are Christians and know that God is still in control. It saddens me to see all the misery that this nation is facing. I agree with Debbie by the scriptures she shared. it is right on the money. It is too bad that this nation has run amok. I know it will get worse and no telling what will evolve. But one thing I know. Jesus Is Lord!! And Thank God He Is.
Racism of any ethnos is a form of idolatry. It is self-centered at its core, and does what any idol does, supercedes our attention, worship and passion for the one true God. When the “rubber hits the road,” racism trumps everything else, even God’s righteousness.
Thanks for a great article/interview. Jesus Christ the Lord is the Fixer for racism.