Could America not having a true Christian candidate for the presidency be a judgment from God?
On Thursday, September 27, 2012, I was interviewed by host Brian Thomas of Blessings to Israel Ministries on his “God First” program. During the 45-minute interview we discussed how Christians should approach the 2012 election.
Brian Thomas: As you mentioned earlier, we have what seems to be a Humanist who claims Christianity as one candidate and then we have a Mormon on the other. It is very obvious that we do not have a true Christian as a candidate for the presidency. Could this be a sign from God as a judgment upon our nation being that we really don’t have a true Christian candidate?
Nathan Jones: Absolutely. If there was any more perfect example to look at it’s Israel. God used Israel in the Old Testament and later in the New to demonstrate how God operates, which has never changed. When the people of the nation of Israel became evil, God gave them an evil king. The evil king would punish his own people with injustice and high taxes, and basically enslave them and ruin the country. But, when the people were good and followed God and listened to the prophets and the teachers He sent, then God would grant them a good king and he would grow the nation. There would be justice and prosperity. Time and time again Israel is filled with examples, like if you read through the Kings and the Chronicles, of God using leaders as judgment on the people for good or for bad.
Because of God’s example through Israel, yes, I firmly believe that we are getting a President right now, and not just a President but a Congress and judicial system and the entire framework of our government, that can be used to bless the Lord if the people are good. But, it can also be used to punish the people for the purpose of bringing the people to cry out from underneath their persecution and their burdens due to an evil government to call out to the Lord in repentance for relief.
Brian Thomas: I find that so interesting. People will commonly agree that God is the one who puts a certain person in as President. I agree with you that God does control who’s there and who’s not, but it may not be as much of a blessing as we would like to think. There are some people who say God puts leaders in so therefore they are always a blessing, and yet, as you stated, there is example after example in the Bible in which with the nation of Israel God established a leader there as a judgment on those people because of their rebellion and sin. Many would cry out, but then there were still be some even in the midst of judgment and the burdens on them who still still didn’t realize why they were suffering. They didn’t get it, and they still don’t understand it. That God could put in leaders for His judgment is kind of baffling to some.
The fact is that we’ve killed 50 million babies legally through abortion in this nation. We are a large engine for the world’s pornographic film business. Then there’s our rated R movies and all the types of filth we pump out of country. We’ve of course as a nation turned our backs on Israel. Because of these sins, I think all of these things together are God’s way of saying, “Okay, if you want to turn away from me and my commands, if you don’t want me in your schools, if you don’t want me in your public places, if you don’t want to pray to me or for me, then I’m going to step away.” I think by that response what we are looking at is the very judgment of God. I believe that this maybe is one of the early phases of judgment on this nation that we are in, and I think it may be very well that the worst is still yet to come.
Nathan Jones: Sadly true. We look at Romans 13:1 a lot where it tells us that God is the one who raises up and tears down leaders. We assume that since God is good therefore all the leaders God gives us have got to then be good leaders. But, that’s not the case at all. God gives us good leaders certainly, but He can also give us bad leaders to punish us. Right now especially, enduring the incredible decline in the United States in the last 10 years due to bankrupting us from two war, the moral lapse of this country, the running up of the debt burden which will collapse us as a world power, and the shrinking of our military, they all reveal that America is quickly losing its power and strength under the leadership we’ve been given. It’s a punishment on us all. It is a punishment, but it’s primary purpose is to call us back to God to place Him back in as the moral king of this country again. Then God will give us a again a president and all those who serve as administrators underneath who will follow God and love God. That will be when the country flourishes once more.
In the next part of Brian and my interview concerning the Christian’s approach to the 2012 election, we’ll look at each candidate’s stand on abortion, same-sex marriage and Israel.